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welcome to the Upper Lachlan Shire

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Council meeting of the 19th of June 25

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firstly in relation to public gallery

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I'd like to welcome the public gallery

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to the ordinary council meeting today

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council continues to webcast the council

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meetings to the public where persons may

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watch from the comfort of their home a

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reminder to all persons present in the

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public gallery they are requested to

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refrain from making any comments to the

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counselors or speaking during the

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meeting and to be respectful at all

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times the public gallery is present to

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watch the meeting but cannot participate

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in the debate or in interject in any way

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to meeting proceedings the Mayor's

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chairperson is authorized to halt

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meeting proceedings at any time and may

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expel any person who breaches the code

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of meeting practice

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 in relation to webcasting of today's

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meeting this council meeting is being

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webcast and audio recorded in accordance

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with council's code of meeting practice

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an audio recording is made for

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administrative purposes only those in

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attendance today including councilors

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and staff  should refrain from making

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defamatory comments and by speaking at

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the council meeting you agree to be

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aware recorded and webcast

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please ensure that if and when you are

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speaking at the council meeting that you

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are respectful to other people and use

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appropriate language Upper Lachlan Shire

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accepts no responsibility for any

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defamatory or offensive remarks or

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gestures made during the course of this

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council meeting

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at today's meeting we do have a

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confidential report 

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 so yeah at the meet the meeting of

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the 19th of June council we have one

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confidential report which is item 9.1

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the supply and delivery of bulk fuel 

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this is required to be confidential

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under the local government act the

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relevant sections are 10A part 2 C 10A

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part 2D1 and 10A part 2D2 and that deals

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with a matter that's commercial and

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confidence and and has to be dealt with

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confidentially for that reason 

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council  at the time of the

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confidential report at at this time the

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public gallery will be closed and

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council's webcast and audio recording

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will be paused until the matters are

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resolved council will then return to

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open session and resume the webcast

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webcast to read the resolutions from

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this close session  acknowledgement of

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country i'd like to acknowledge and pay

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our respects to the Aboriginal Elders

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both past and present as well as

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emerging leaders and acknowledge the

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traditional custodians of the land on

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which we meet today

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thank you so just moving on to 

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apologies  we do have one apology

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today councelor Meggitt is unwell and

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unable to join us so we hope we wish her

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a speedy recovery  could I ask for

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someone to to move that their apology be

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accepted

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councelor Searl been seconded council Flanagan all

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those in favor

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 we'll move on now to the 

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declarations of interest 

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we have  four declarations today 

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one is from myself  in relation to

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item 16.1

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 the Crookwell 2 wind farm  and I've

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elected option E because I was an

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officer in relation to that matter to

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make declaration stay in the chair not

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participate

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in the debate and and not vote 

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councelor Searl

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has declared an interest in item 16.1

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which is the Colerin Range Windfarm 

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he's chosen option A to make a

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declaration stay in the chamber and

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participate in the debate that's a

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non-significant declaration

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and did you just

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chair yeah so I think your partner

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referred to four but this covers two

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so Deputy Mayor Rob Cameron has declared

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a non-significant interest in item

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16.1 in relation to pages  191 and 199

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the Gullen Range wind farm  he's

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selected option E make a declaration stay

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in the chamber not participate in the

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debate and  not vote so thank you all

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table those there's no further

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declarations I trust

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and that being the case could I move

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that those declarations be accepted

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ask move from

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councilor ? seconded sorry Council

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Reynolds all those in favor thank you

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all righty so

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now at this point 

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 we don't have any

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citizenship ceremonies today so at this

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point I'd just like to  play tribute

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to a significant member of our community

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who's who's passed away recently 

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Richard Kennedy OAM he  actually

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was only inducted into  the Order of

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Australia in the last 12 months  and

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 we we were visited by the Governor

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General Sam on that occasion and there

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was a ceremony and and Richard received

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that gathered in the company of his

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family and friends

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Richard dedicated 77 years of his

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life to serving the community to the

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Upper Lachlan Shire  for 21 years he

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served as a counselor to the Crookwell Shire

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Council which you know prior to Upper

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Lachlan we had the Crookwell Council on the

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? Council including nine years as

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Mayor and three as deputy Mayor  he

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was also general manager of the Crookwell

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Frail Aid Society and for 25 years

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and the Crookwell trail of care limited

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which is now known as View Haven that

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was the precursors to that  he's a

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life member of the historical society 

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where he also served as president and

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vice president  and look I 

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councelor Flanagan here is  his

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niece I  certainly  knew Richard

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very well

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And  yeah so I I just like to add on a

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personal note that Richard was also you

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know a lovely person very colorful

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character he was very into music he was

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he was in a series a lot of bands and he

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used to often play the local school

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dances and all sorts of occasions over

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the years just just someone who who 

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like to contribute and his his um

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his  we we'd also just like to mention

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his children which is  Barry Marie

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Michael and James  and it was also

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Karen who had predecessed him so if I

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could ask you to be upstanding my minute

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silence

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to Richard Kennedy OAM thank you

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all

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right thank you everybody

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so now if we could move on to item

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five  the confirmation of minutes

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which have been before you for some time

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could I call for a mover for acceptance

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of those minutes

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moved by councelor S and

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seconded by councelor Pierce  is there

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any comments in relation to those

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minutes or amendments

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appear that they can be taken as read um

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so

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 I'll move all those in favor of

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acceptance say I i thank you let's pass

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that

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um today we we don't have any

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presentations to council

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 I'll move on to item seven which is

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the  the mayoral minute  look there

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outlined in the papers there i just make

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 a couple of comments  we've already

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spoken  in previous occasions about

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the the Humeling project  which is

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overall controllers with Trans Grid 

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the CEO and myself met with Cameron

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Waters and Michael Johnson during the

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month  to talk about some of the

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community benefits that  are already

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foreshadow and and some other ones that

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um you know we've we've put to them that

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we'd like to see happen  and look I I

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guess all I report on that was that

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largely their response was that you know

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they're very happy to talk to us about

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and some of our staff have been dealing

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with on those matters they they they

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sort of indicated they're largely in the

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hands of the state government and the

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relevant authorities who will pass down

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any any additional benefits to the Shire so

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that'll be a  continued work in

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progress 

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in terms of other significant matters um

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I'd mentioned the

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the meeting um the CJO meets every

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quarter but once a year we get the

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opportunity to go to state parliament um

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and meet with a range of ministers that

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that happened during the month um I I

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personally was obviously the first time

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I've been to one but I I really found it

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very worthwhile we we had 13 ministers

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there um it wasn't scheduled but we

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actually had a a short time with the the

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premier as well Premier Mins who was um

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very generous in his um comments about

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regional Mayors he sort of indicated

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that we were easy to deal with and his

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metropolitan counterparts which is a

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nice little comment but look there were

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some very relevant Mayors to to some of

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the things a very relevant minister

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sorry to to some of the things in our

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areas i'd mention  Minister Scully in

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particular who we we raised a number of

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topics with him and and spoke about

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state significant projects Tara 

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Mariotti who who has a particular focus

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on regional New South Wales was also

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very informative and very open to our

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views on a range of subjects 

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including things like  drought

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declarations and disaster relief  Mark

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Sputn the leader of the opposition

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presented as well he he there was a

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couple of issues raised with him that he

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clearly wasn't aware of and  he was

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quite inquisitive and allowed us to 

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to put those to him so I thought that

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was useful Steve Warren was one was

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there and you know just some other

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interesting areas were things like

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training apprenticeships which the

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Upper Lachlan has already  taken up with

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several of those and and  there's

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another round of those which we we may

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or may not explore

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um

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yes  so look I'll take questions on

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any of those i would just like to

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mention another matter um that occurred

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during the month and as part of my 

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Mel minute and that was I mentioned

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before that um the the late Richard

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Kennedy received an OAM  the June long

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weekend which is just passed there was

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two further announcements of of local

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recognitions um those two people were

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 counselor former counselor Malcolm

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Henry Barow who now resides in the ACT

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but he he was a resident of Cookwell for

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some time he was a counselor from 2008

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to 2016 he took a very keen interest in

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the audit investment committee while he

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was on council um and and so with myself

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and and the director of finance on that

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um another passion of his was the  the

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Croole River project in town here which

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we refer to as the Cayama Creek  he he

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worked with a a group there over

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well I'm not sure how long 10 or 15

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years where they regularly um gradually

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improve that area when it was originally

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a very  overrun with  willows and

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and in quiet estate whereas now it's a

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delightful place for tourists and locals

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alike  to visit and enjoy  so he he

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was a driving force behind that along

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with the others he was the treasur of

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the landscape guardians that was a local

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group who were  particularly

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 particularly concerned about the

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amount of um state projects in the sh um

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he was also  a teacher that was his

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main profession um prior to coming to

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crook so that came through in the

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council meetings he was extremely strict

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on grammar and things like that

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um yeah so anyway I would have to say

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councelor Barlow obviously I knew him

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very well he was um a very opinionated

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person he he wasn't the sort of person

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who just sat there and nodded his head

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and and  that's a good thing he was

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very robust in his views um on how to

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make the show a better place and and on

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a range of subjects so  and as I say

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Malcolm still um I think is now living

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in the ACT the second person was um Paul

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Paul John Anderson who lives in Golden

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Australian and Crook um Paul is a

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long-standing member of the agriculture

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society in town i think  he's been a

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member since back in the 1970s he's a

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past president secretary and patron um

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he's also very active in sport he he

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played football for many years locally

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and and after leaving that um

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 has was was on the board of the the

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local rugby league for many years um

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he's also another member of the crook

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historical society um and um

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he  has has been a recipient of

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citizen of the year from a shower

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council again just another very

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community-minded person um and a very

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worthy recipient so congratulations to

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those two residents um who've also just

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received that honor um is there any

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other questions in relation to the mal

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minute from the floor yes councils

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um just a couple of  things regarding

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structur

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um the community meeting at Lagen and

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also if you could give us a very quick

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overview of your meeting held on the 3rd

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of June with the CEO with yourself and

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the deputy there may  yes thank you

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councelor Reynolds well look um strong

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have um they have a document which I

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think a lot of people have received

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which talks about the

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um the proposal that they're putting

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forward and and it has in there a

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timeline  at the moment they're at the

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community engagement stage so as council

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Reynolds alludes to they had a um public

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um meetings at Lag and Crook and Binda

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um and they foreshadowed two further

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ones at the at the markets I think

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coming up um at those meetings they had

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a a geographical like a map showing the

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the um the areas that were under that

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that look like that people were

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interested in hosting a wind farm and

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they made it very clear that they were

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continuing to talk to people and um and

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they their view was that that you know

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may well expand um they also gave some

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indication of the manner in which um

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they

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provide benefits to the community um in

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relation to

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 I guess one of their main things is

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they have traditionally I understand in

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the overall show they've provided small

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subsidies to all rate in terms of their

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electricity charges which is something I

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hadn't heard before and the other big

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difference I suppose is that one of

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their focuses is to not just

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um pay a fee to the host but to people

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who are within I think it's a 4 and a

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half km radius of of any turbine so

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they're making an attempt to spread the

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benefit albeit a lesser amount to people

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other than the people who actually

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physically have their turbines um the

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other thing they made clear was this is

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a very long process so they're they're

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projecting to lodge a DA in about 3

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years um and upright for at least the

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next 6 months they'll be simply 

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communicating and obviously they're

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hoping to expand their project um we did

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also have a myself and the CEO did have

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a um

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a meeting as well ourselves with G

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heron and Sophie Irvine um to be honest

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that was largely the same information

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that that that was available at the

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public meeting but we did talk about um

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some of the things that need to be

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considered if if the project were to

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proceed in terms of the

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where the turbines were traveling the

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the the you know things like roads and

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things like that which will come well

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down the track but we just had initial

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discussions on that um and and the other

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thing we we spoke about was you know

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something that I think all the public

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has said is just why is it that um um

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yeah the upwell plan has again been

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targeted for that and um they just

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explained that they'd evaluated 80 sites

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across the state and they found two that

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stood out one of them being here and I

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guess from their point of view they

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believe um you know we tick all the

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boxes in terms of what they want to do

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but I guess in the coming over this next

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well from here on basically our

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community and indeed council will

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continue to review what's proposed and

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you know decide whether um we support

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that or and and and what conditions

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would be associated if it did proceed or

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what we would conditions we'd like to

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see because ultimately it is of course a

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state government um project is that okay

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councils any other um questions on any

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items

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thank you well look I'll move that the

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me accepted

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seconded by council so all those in

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favor

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okay

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um if we can move then on to

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correspondence which is um item 28 sorry

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page 28

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the correspondence

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 moved by council fell that the

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correspondence be accepted and seconded

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by council flan there's just one item

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there um and that's in relation to the

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gain district community and health

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service um the CEO and myself who was

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alluded to in the um in the mere minute

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we did have a meeting with um that

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organization they've got a very quite an

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exciting project um that they're seeking

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to get off the ground in going they've

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done a lot of work on it already they've

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got a a full architectural schematic and

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and they've done some costings although

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they're still refining those um

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Michael McCormick MP um has been down to

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visit and he's he's also quite

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supportive of it and and um indicated

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that he did everything he could to help

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them get it funded um so look what I'd

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like to do

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um

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well firstly we might just move the

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recommendation which is within that

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which is um well I guess what I'd like

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to do is formally um support this um

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project  which will give them some

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assistance they've already got a lot of

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support from other organizations um that

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will allow them to seek grand funding

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and it's very important the local

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council stands behind it and you know

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this could not be a more worthwhile

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thing in our district health is um such

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a big issue around the state and if they

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were to get funding for this it would be

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an incredible  compliment it's already

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providing a great service but but having

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this new premises would just kick that

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along enormously um so look I' the

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recommendation is that

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um yeah I'd like to move a motion that

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council accept the correspondence and

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write a letter to the Gunning District

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Community and Health Services Inc

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supporting the initiative to build a new

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Gunning Health Service building um could

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I have a second that

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second council summ

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yes absolutely council members

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gosh this is an exciting project and I

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absolutely applaud Gunning for doing

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this i know they've worked very very

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hard over a number of years to build

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literally from the ground up their their

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medical health services i just have one

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comment to make in the letter that they

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have  given us and  that is that

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they're not seeking direct funding from

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council but any assistance with council

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related fees as we progress the

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development application will be greatly

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appreciated understand the sentiment um

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my question is if we were to do that

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what implication could that then open up

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for other community applications

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 do you want to talk to that the

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director of planning  through the CEO

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basically we're looking at looking at

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the um fees associated with the

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development application based on the

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price of construction cost they provided

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both the

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fees and construction certificate fees

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would be around the $25 mark that is an

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option where council can

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provide support for this development um

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any application

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we receive with respect to fees would be

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addressed on a merit casebyase basis

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um that it's it's what implications it

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won't

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create a precedent as I said we just

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look at it from a case by case and on

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merits

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um yes councelor so council does have a

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policy for wavering fees and it's a

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matter of compliance policy but I say

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the council has been a great supporter

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of the game and community health service

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over many years has provided

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accommodation at the  um facility

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otherwise known as the courthouse where

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they operated from years at no cost and

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feed

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so they've been given a lot of support

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many years send

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their board yes thank you councel so and

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look I would note that the the

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association is um quite a viable

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organization they have significant funds

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that they are prepared to put towards

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the project should that be required and

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obviously they've already got the land

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um but again as um the director

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mentioned um we'll look at those issues

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as and when they arrive um but needless

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to say I'm very excited by the project

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and I I really hope um it goes ahead and

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I think it will it's just a matter of

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timing

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thank

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you man um as a resident of Gunning

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since 2015 and unfortunately a regular

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user of the  district health service

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um and I can say that the the reach of

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the district health service is

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goes beyond the actual shire they

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provide services um well beyond you

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would what you would normally expect um

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their staff are um just fabulous they're

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very dedicated um and

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it's ba it's basically the the core

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health provider in the southern part of

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the SH and goes down to Gundaroo and um

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to other other places as well outside

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the SH and it's a a fabulous

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organization

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which  is independent it's not funded

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by government they they raise all their

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money themsel themselves through grants

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through um various fundraising

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activities um it's a great organization

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and um I 100% support the um the

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development of the health health center

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it's fabulous  thank you all right um

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so we put that I think um we might move

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on then to item 10 which is the

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information only session

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you just need to resolve oh we hadn't we

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haven't

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pardon so we've got a mover and a second

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for the motion um that's been read um

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all those in favor i thank you for your

00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:08.456
support

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okay if we can move to item 10 the

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information section um the first item is

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a  is a planning matter so ask for a

00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.640
mover for that councelor S and seconded

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by councelor Fagan um

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I'll put that motion all those in favor

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and so any questions on that first

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matter

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on the plan on the development

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statistics report statistics

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right yeah well look what we might do

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then is as we normally do with all of

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the items remaining um we will put those

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in one motion but firstly just could we

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just foreshadow any questions that

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anyone might have on items um I'll start

00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:56.535
with council

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i have a question

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I have questions a question on  10.2

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 10.3

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and  two questions on 10.3

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very good um yes CP i have a question on

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10.2

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and a question/suggestion on 10.7

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all right Council 10.2 10.7

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um no other  there

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10.8

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all right all right could um for items

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10.2 to 10.9 could first of all get a

00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.880
mover for that except yeah and second

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appears and then we'll move on to

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questions so on item 10.2 um councelor

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Cameron thank you chair simple question

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really and it relates to the um  what

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the I was astonished the 1,300 tons of

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scrap metal being collected and removed

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for recycling my question is how much do

00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.015
we earn from that

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yeah thank you for the question i don't

00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.456
know if um they have to be taken on

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:13.976
notice but we'll see if the director of

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infrastructure has got any comments

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sorry going the wrong way

00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:23.880
um basically through a tender process um

00:28:24.159 --> 00:28:26.456
I believe the going rate at the time was

00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.480
around the $240 to $260 per ton um so we

00:28:31.679 --> 00:28:33.736
made a reasonable amount of income out

00:28:33.760 --> 00:28:36.760
of that material um if you've been to

00:28:37.919 --> 00:28:40.775
the [ __ ] transfer station over 18

00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.456
well I think it was over 14 months sorry

00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.375
um that was quite a significant stock

00:28:44.399 --> 00:28:47.176
pile of scrap metal

00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.416
yeah large quantities of fencing

00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.255
material and all sorts of matters I'm

00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.416
sure yeah quick supplementary question

00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.655
if I may chair thank Thank you for that

00:28:55.679 --> 00:28:58.216
it wasn't a stockpile  it was a

00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:01.015
mountain um yeah  but my supplementary

00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:02.535
my supplementary question is how often

00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.176
is that collected

00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.096
 through the CA we usually do that 12

00:29:07.120 --> 00:29:10.120
months 12 monthly

00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.480
very good councelor Pierce um yeah in

00:29:14.399 --> 00:29:17.096
regards to the water water and sewage is

00:29:17.120 --> 00:29:20.120
sorry P could you just click your mic on

00:29:20.159 --> 00:29:23.159
it seems you off

00:29:23.919 --> 00:29:26.856
thank you okay how's that very good okay

00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:29.176
um it's in regards to water and sewer

00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.200
it's more a question on  the status of

00:29:33.520 --> 00:29:36.520
the our infrastructure in regards to

00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.936
sewage and water cuz water is going to

00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:41.960
be an ongoing issue um and as the  SH

00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:46.936
increases in population we're going to

00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.655
have  difficulty supplying water to

00:29:49.679 --> 00:29:52.679
our um our residents  and also

00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.279
treating the waste um I think we all

00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:58.535
know by now it's a bit of a bug bear of

00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.559
mine that um  the development sorry

00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.039
retract that growth in the SH is

00:30:08.080 --> 00:30:10.296
severely limited by the access to water

00:30:10.320 --> 00:30:13.320
treatment and potable water um is it

00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.039
possible for us to have a an idea of

00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.240
council's current andor future

00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.736
um

00:30:23.760 --> 00:30:26.135
addressing of  these these

00:30:26.159 --> 00:30:28.296
infrastructure issues apologies i had a

00:30:28.320 --> 00:30:30.135
very well drafted document which I

00:30:30.159 --> 00:30:32.375
managed to leave at home um so I'm

00:30:32.399 --> 00:30:35.399
making it up as I go along but um yes

00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.576
like particularly in  for gunning and

00:30:37.600 --> 00:30:40.600
forga water and sewage are um are  

00:30:42.080 --> 00:30:45.080
big issues and  um

00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.015
yes

00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.416
 through the CEO um in simple answers

00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.895
we can provide a report so just by way

00:30:53.919 --> 00:30:56.296
of background all councils are required

00:30:56.320 --> 00:30:58.696
to develop what's called an integrated

00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.720
water catchment management plan um

00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:04.856
this upper Lachland Shire has been

00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.096
working with public works for a period

00:31:07.120 --> 00:31:10.056
of time  we have completed what's

00:31:10.080 --> 00:31:12.456
called the issues paper which sits

00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.535
behind that document where there were a

00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.856
number of gaps that needed to be filled

00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.655
to give us a higher level of confidence

00:31:19.679 --> 00:31:21.176
in the data

00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:24.200
 one of those gaps that we sorry I'll

00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.200
go back a step a report was presented to

00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.135
the former council where we allocated

00:31:30.159 --> 00:31:32.216
additional funds to allow those studies

00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.616
to be completed which are currently

00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.640
being undertaken with the aim to be

00:31:37.679 --> 00:31:39.736
completed by the end of this calendar

00:31:39.760 --> 00:31:41.336
year

00:31:41.360 --> 00:31:44.360
part of that process was to look at

00:31:45.360 --> 00:31:47.495
water supplies groundwater supplies in

00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.519
particular to determine what volume

00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.440
is estimated that we are able to extract

00:31:56.320 --> 00:31:58.296
um which will then give us a higher

00:31:58.320 --> 00:32:01.320
level of confidence on

00:32:01.919 --> 00:32:03.976
how that may impact on future

00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.000
development um so I at this stage we can

00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.096
provide a further report on the issues

00:32:09.120 --> 00:32:12.120
paper um but the biggest path forward at

00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:14.456
the moment is we've got those

00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.856
consultants engaged completing those

00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:18.696
final documents which we hope to have in

00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:20.936
the next 6 months

00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.960
supplementary that actually goes answers

00:32:24.080 --> 00:32:25.736
part of my second part of the question

00:32:25.760 --> 00:32:28.375
which was what could council and

00:32:28.399 --> 00:32:29.895
counselors

00:32:29.919 --> 00:32:32.135
do within the bounds of propriety and

00:32:32.159 --> 00:32:33.176
dealing with state and federal

00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.200
government to promote um regional

00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.736
development um funds being being given

00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:42.760
to the SH to develop these um 

00:32:43.360 --> 00:32:45.895
facilities but  until those studies

00:32:45.919 --> 00:32:48.919
are undertaken I think that's a  um

00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.736
there's that's a bit of a nugatory thing

00:32:51.760 --> 00:32:53.416
we can't until we have the base

00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.736
information we can't we we can't really

00:32:55.760 --> 00:32:57.895
go to state or commonwealth and say we

00:32:57.919 --> 00:33:00.775
need money for because we need the the

00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.255
facts to back it up but yeah thank you

00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.736
very much

00:33:05.760 --> 00:33:08.216
um yeah

00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:11.240
so um obviously we're working on more 

00:33:12.159 --> 00:33:14.296
complex and detailed strategic plans we

00:33:14.320 --> 00:33:17.320
do have some older ones um and I guess

00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:19.816
you've had reports that have come to

00:33:19.840 --> 00:33:21.895
council already that show that

00:33:21.919 --> 00:33:24.856
development is being stifled by  well

00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.216
water and sewer particularly in the

00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:29.240
Gunning area so um council recently 

00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:31.816
applied via an expression of interest

00:33:31.840 --> 00:33:34.296
for the national water grid fund  and

00:33:34.320 --> 00:33:36.535
that was to assist with the portable

00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.559
water um issue that we've got in Gunning

00:33:39.679 --> 00:33:42.216
um to expand essentially the the

00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.015
offstream water so the reservoir to

00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.255
everybody so um we were unsuccessful

00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:48.936
unfortunately and that was for almost $2

00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.960
million so council have continued even

00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:54.775
though we're working on  better

00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.216
strategic documents but we have

00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.936
continued using what we have and I guess

00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.736
anecdotal and statistical analysis that

00:34:01.760 --> 00:34:04.056
shows it it's being constrained by water

00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:06.775
and sewer to continue to get grants um

00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.536
unfortunately we're being unsuccessful

00:34:08.560 --> 00:34:11.416
and the feedback wasn't very helpful it

00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:13.976
was really that it was overs subscribed

00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:15.736
that that's not a very that's not

00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.895
helpful we can't progress from there you

00:34:17.919 --> 00:34:19.256
know if you get feedback that says you

00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:20.855
were missing this then of course we can

00:34:20.879 --> 00:34:22.615
work on that but unfortunately the

00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.615
answer was it was just overs subscribed

00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.095
so we didn't get it um we do have some

00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.496
concerns that um the number of residents

00:34:29.520 --> 00:34:32.296
and and that stats based on risk um is

00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:34.936
affecting us so in terms of counselors

00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.335
and council I guess at a time when

00:34:37.359 --> 00:34:39.655
particularly  the Mayor is speaking to

00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.895
a minister or our local member any

00:34:41.919 --> 00:34:43.655
assistance in pushing things for

00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:45.335
everybody's important even if you're a

00:34:45.359 --> 00:34:47.575
smaller sh

00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:49.575
geographically yeah thank you very much

00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.496
and look again going back to the meal

00:34:51.520 --> 00:34:53.655
minute that was another point that was

00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.456
made very strongly by a number of Mayors

00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.480
including ourselves to councelor to

00:34:59.680 --> 00:35:01.656
minister Scully is that he's continuing

00:35:01.680 --> 00:35:04.376
to tell us that we need to  provide

00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.376
more housing that there's a big shortage

00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.055
across the state and they've said well

00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.296
assist us with the infrastructure and

00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.320
we'll embrace your goals you know so

00:35:13.359 --> 00:35:15.095
these things are cyclical we'll we'll

00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.176
keep applying for them and and hopefully

00:35:17.200 --> 00:35:19.496
um they'll be more generous with their

00:35:19.520 --> 00:35:22.055
agreements um Council Reynolds I believe

00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.016
had a question  yes through the Mayor

00:35:25.040 --> 00:35:28.040
 just in reference to um  sewer

00:35:28.560 --> 00:35:31.560
chokes that were cleared  of course

00:35:32.240 --> 00:35:34.376
mostly by items not supposed to be

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.095
flushed i think that it's a timely

00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.119
reminder that perhaps an education

00:35:40.160 --> 00:35:42.936
 process be adopted and certainly

00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.960
through publicity that um this is when

00:35:47.200 --> 00:35:48.856
you're looking at baby wipes and so on

00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:51.656
in the toilet there there is a

00:35:51.680 --> 00:35:54.680
repercussion and that affects all of us

00:35:55.040 --> 00:35:58.040
and  perhaps if we as a community can

00:35:58.560 --> 00:36:01.176
be more mindful if it hasn't come from

00:36:01.200 --> 00:36:02.696
our body it shouldn't be going down

00:36:02.720 --> 00:36:05.720
there then um It may not have as many

00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.055
seeds

00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:11.079
yeah well that's a Tom mention director

00:36:12.560 --> 00:36:13.896
through the C we'll take that on board

00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.920
and we'll progress to some information

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.616
thank you very good thank you move on to

00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:23.176
the next item which um is the work in

00:36:23.200 --> 00:36:24.936
progress construction maintenance

00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:26.856
councelor Cameron had a question so I

00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.880
got two two several questions i I had

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.136
two two questions which actually chair I

00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:35.160
think are  partly comments um on page

00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.976
 49 of the report which goes to the

00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:43.000
grading of unsealed roads which for me

00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.095
and a number of other councilors who

00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:48.119
live on unsealed roads um  is a matter

00:36:48.560 --> 00:36:50.456
of dear to our hearts of course but much

00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:52.856
more so dear to the the folk that live

00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.616
on the rest of the the road network in

00:36:54.640 --> 00:36:57.640
the SH so um  just on the grading in

00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.815
progress are upcoming um I I note 

00:37:01.839 --> 00:37:04.055
from driving around just earlier this

00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.536
week that Carabangler Road is currently

00:37:06.560 --> 00:37:08.296
being graded and it's not listed on the

00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.320
grading in progress or upcoming list um

00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.736
the grading I drove through Carabanga

00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.760
yesterday um and um the um  the

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:19.095
grading and roller team they're doing a

00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.335
great job um fixing up a pretty pretty

00:37:21.359 --> 00:37:24.055
bad patch of that that um that important

00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.079
link road there um  between between

00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.599
the Terrella Road and um  Middle Arm

00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:33.176
Road um

00:37:33.200 --> 00:37:34.936
 the team is doing a terrific job can

00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.176
I just by way of a comment complement

00:37:37.200 --> 00:37:38.856
the way that the greater and roller

00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.880
drivers  manage the traffic that's

00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.296
happening at the same time  I pulled

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.616
up behind the greater driver  and

00:37:46.640 --> 00:37:48.856
within a you know a very small number of

00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.616
seconds he'd seen me in the mirrors cuz

00:37:50.640 --> 00:37:53.095
I was behind him  he pulled off very

00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.736
similar response from the um  from the

00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.216
roller operator as well so terrific and

00:37:58.240 --> 00:38:00.376
I think that's just goes to terrific

00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.400
work from from the team my substantive

00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:05.656
comment about this is in fact about 

00:38:05.680 --> 00:38:07.335
the road that's on the other side of the

00:38:07.359 --> 00:38:09.335
lag and Terrella road not Carabangle but

00:38:09.359 --> 00:38:11.575
Turtle Road that's in dire need um I've

00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.599
had email correspondents with um the CEO

00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.815
and others during the week um that's

00:38:17.839 --> 00:38:19.335
very possibly the worst road I've driven

00:38:19.359 --> 00:38:21.896
on in the SH in in the eight years that

00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.616
I've I've lived here um I drove its full

00:38:24.640 --> 00:38:27.256
length yesterday um from the Turoga Lane

00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:29.416
and Road in right up to the Gby road

00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.815
cockatum intersection um I can't recall

00:38:31.839 --> 00:38:34.696
a worse road um  and because there's a

00:38:34.720 --> 00:38:37.095
gravel pit on there it's used by trucks

00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.815
 sometimes with a the truck and

00:38:39.839 --> 00:38:42.216
trailer the the dog trailer outfit it's

00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:43.815
narrow i had to pull off to let one of

00:38:43.839 --> 00:38:46.776
the carriers go through um  so um I'm

00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:48.536
very pleased to see that it's scheduled

00:38:48.560 --> 00:38:51.335
um  for um upcoming work  that that

00:38:51.359 --> 00:38:54.296
really can't come can't come soon enough

00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.055
um it would be terrific and I suppose my

00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:57.335
substantive question is if we could get

00:38:57.359 --> 00:38:58.696
an update when that's done that' be

00:38:58.720 --> 00:39:00.136
that'd be great to see it reflected in

00:39:00.160 --> 00:39:03.016
in the next in the next report

00:39:03.040 --> 00:39:06.040
um second comment chair if I may um and

00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.095
you can then dispense with me on this

00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:12.119
issue um is I just want to foreshadow a

00:39:12.160 --> 00:39:15.160
question for our next council meeting um

00:39:15.200 --> 00:39:16.616
um which I will get in in the next week

00:39:16.640 --> 00:39:18.616
or so so there's plenty of time it would

00:39:18.640 --> 00:39:21.640
be a question with notice on how it is

00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.216
that we determine the schedule for roads

00:39:24.240 --> 00:39:26.055
maintenance but I don't quite understand

00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:28.296
that and if I don't with the access I

00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.095
have to you all on a regular basis I'm

00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.335
very sure that some of our um

00:39:33.359 --> 00:39:35.176
constituent rate payers also don't have

00:39:35.200 --> 00:39:37.016
a good understanding about how that

00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:38.856
maintenance schedule is constructed in

00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.335
the context of the roads hierarchy we

00:39:41.359 --> 00:39:43.575
have the assessment of risk  and the

00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:44.936
volumes of traffic i think that would be

00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.496
a very useful piece of information so

00:39:47.520 --> 00:39:49.335
chair through you through through the

00:39:49.359 --> 00:39:51.736
CEO to to to the to the director that'll

00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.256
be a very useful piece of information I

00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.776
think and I'll be very keen to receive

00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:57.736
that

00:39:57.760 --> 00:39:59.416
thank you

00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:01.176
very much

00:40:01.200 --> 00:40:04.200
um to provide the info that requested

00:40:06.560 --> 00:40:09.560
bring that to get across that next

00:40:13.839 --> 00:40:16.055
um thank you i think the there was no

00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:17.575
questions on the next couple of items

00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:20.599
down to item 10.7 tourism which um

00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:22.696
councelor Pierce had a question I

00:40:22.720 --> 00:40:25.720
believe um yes as I said I had a

00:40:26.240 --> 00:40:27.815
beautiful word document which I've left

00:40:27.839 --> 00:40:30.839
at home um the um recently I was in

00:40:31.839 --> 00:40:34.136
Gunning with um

00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:36.055
director Arkansas and  we're looking

00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.079
at a premises in Gunning and um and I

00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.440
was reading on  the impact of visitor

00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:44.616
information centers

00:40:44.640 --> 00:40:47.640
And I'd just 

00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:51.079
through to the CEO  I'd be interested

00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.815
if council could look at a fe

00:40:53.839 --> 00:40:56.839
feasibility into having another visitor

00:40:57.359 --> 00:41:00.359
information center situated in Gunning

00:41:01.359 --> 00:41:04.216
um which would either utilize more of a

00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:06.936
current council premises which is under

00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.960
underutilized or a currently vacant

00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.456
council premises which is not being

00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.480
utilized at all um with a with a view

00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:19.000
that it could be um a financial boon to

00:41:20.640 --> 00:41:23.640
council um it could be self-funded if if

00:41:25.359 --> 00:41:28.359
run properly but is  just model point

00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.400
is there a capability capacity to run a

00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.920
feasibility or to look into the

00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.095
potential of a visitors information

00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.656
center in in game

00:41:39.680 --> 00:41:42.536
you like to take that one i've got three

00:41:42.560 --> 00:41:44.616
microphones now i hope everyone can hear

00:41:44.640 --> 00:41:47.416
me

00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:49.496
um it's certainly something we can look

00:41:49.520 --> 00:41:52.295
into counselor but I I'll say straight

00:41:52.319 --> 00:41:54.616
up now it's it's unlikely it's something

00:41:54.640 --> 00:41:57.256
the council will be able to facilitate

00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:58.856
we're not going to be able to run

00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.696
something like that with the number of

00:42:00.720 --> 00:42:02.936
staff that we have what I am happy to do

00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:05.335
is  have the coordinator look into

00:42:05.359 --> 00:42:07.896
ways that we could um use our own

00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.815
council staff and facilities like maybe

00:42:09.839 --> 00:42:11.656
the library which is open at different

00:42:11.680 --> 00:42:14.136
times um to have more leaflets and

00:42:14.160 --> 00:42:16.295
things promoting the area we do promote

00:42:16.319 --> 00:42:18.376
the whole of the upper Lachland in the

00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:20.856
visitor information center which is here

00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.376
yes and of course there's a new one

00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.400
which will be open hopefully by October

00:42:26.160 --> 00:42:27.815
um so that will be good and it will have

00:42:27.839 --> 00:42:30.616
a wider scope of things and we do a lot

00:42:30.640 --> 00:42:32.776
more as you'll see in this report more

00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.256
social media now so and again that's the

00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.496
whole Shire that we're promoting so I

00:42:37.520 --> 00:42:39.896
understand what you're saying um but I

00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:41.656
think the likelihood is very slim that

00:42:41.680 --> 00:42:44.536
we'll be able to do that oh no that's

00:42:44.560 --> 00:42:47.560
all fully fully understood and um as I

00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.696
said I had a fabulous document um and I

00:42:50.720 --> 00:42:53.720
I did some research on it um the impact

00:42:54.240 --> 00:42:57.240
of VIC's is um very well documented and

00:42:57.680 --> 00:43:00.376
well studied um the only thing I was

00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.400
looking at was one was  the position

00:43:04.319 --> 00:43:06.536
that gunning actually is in as it's

00:43:06.560 --> 00:43:09.016
basically the gateway off the highway to

00:43:09.040 --> 00:43:12.040
the SH um the utilization of um of

00:43:13.200 --> 00:43:15.976
council property rather than leaving it

00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.000
 vacant or underutilized the potential

00:43:19.040 --> 00:43:21.976
for volunteers within the community to

00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.000
assist um in there as well um but yeah

00:43:25.200 --> 00:43:27.896
as I say it's a it's a it's very easy to

00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.920
say  for me to say but it's very um

00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.575
time consuming and difficult for the

00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.599
operation side of council to do but um

00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.736
thanks for that and look there was in

00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:41.256
the previous council we did have a

00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:44.136
discussion on the formal tourism center

00:43:44.160 --> 00:43:45.976
thing you know the what they call it the

00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.136
dock with the I what's commonly known as

00:43:48.160 --> 00:43:50.936
the I which um you know if you take on

00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.536
that accredititation you're obliged to

00:43:52.560 --> 00:43:54.055
do certain hours all that sort of thing

00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.055
and it was generally felt that smaller

00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:57.656
places like Tro and Gunning that was

00:43:57.680 --> 00:44:00.680
unwise and even in crook um so that's

00:44:00.720 --> 00:44:01.976
something probably for the tourism

00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.856
committee to to um consider perhaps

00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.815
revisit and see whether we can work

00:44:07.839 --> 00:44:10.776
within those constraints um council

00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:12.295
Reynolds had a question on that item as

00:44:12.319 --> 00:44:15.319
well  thank you Super um firstly

00:44:17.359 --> 00:44:20.055
wonderful to see a report coming in from

00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.079
tourism and economic development um and

00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:26.599
just an observation with the numbers

00:44:26.640 --> 00:44:29.640
that we've seen coming into ash 

00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.920
particularly March April May this was a

00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:35.960
time we had Anzac Day  we had Easter

00:44:36.319 --> 00:44:39.016
we had school holidays and it was very

00:44:39.040 --> 00:44:41.575
very um encouraging to see that our

00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.599
numbers had increased from 1741 last

00:44:45.359 --> 00:44:47.896
year to 1885

00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.456
this year um and that's really really

00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.480
really um encouraging just a couple of

00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:55.896
comments on that  in the report here

00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.920
it said a drop in numbers for March 2025

00:44:59.200 --> 00:45:02.200
is due to the visit of three bus tours

00:45:02.720 --> 00:45:05.176
in March 2024

00:45:05.200 --> 00:45:08.200
my comment there is why don't we have a

00:45:08.240 --> 00:45:11.240
campaign for to attract more groups and

00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:14.920
bus tours to our area if that were the

00:45:15.359 --> 00:45:18.359
case um particularly during that period

00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:21.400
and also spring i'm aware myself that

00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.440
I've attracted two two tour groups in

00:45:25.680 --> 00:45:28.680
September and October and they are keen

00:45:28.720 --> 00:45:31.720
to find gems like our area and once upon

00:45:33.359 --> 00:45:35.575
a time we would regularly send out

00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.599
information to coach companies and um

00:45:39.040 --> 00:45:41.176
and groups like um you know sort of

00:45:41.200 --> 00:45:44.200
retirees and so on um so just something

00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:46.295
perhaps for them to think about i know

00:45:46.319 --> 00:45:49.095
they they are pressed but any sort of

00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.119
campaign we can  do on a regular basis

00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:56.119
to put us to the four um would be 

00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:59.256
would be very welcome so the the

00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:01.335
coordinator and the team have been

00:46:01.359 --> 00:46:03.656
working on that and part of the issue is

00:46:03.680 --> 00:46:05.976
making sure that you can put together um

00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.055
we'll call it a package of places to go

00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.216
and visit so she's been working on that

00:46:10.240 --> 00:46:12.136
um and also councilors will note that

00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:14.295
there is a new fee that's appeared in

00:46:14.319 --> 00:46:16.616
the fees and charges which is for um us

00:46:16.640 --> 00:46:18.936
to facilitate a bus tour so essentially

00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:21.095
someone to go on the bus and say if you

00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.416
look to your left you'll see so there is

00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.736
actually new fees yes that's right

00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:27.896
exactly information center so you'll see

00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.416
that that is something we're progressing

00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.656
so yes thank you very good

00:46:31.680 --> 00:46:34.616
and one other thing if I may under

00:46:34.640 --> 00:46:37.640
highlights um there  one of the things

00:46:38.160 --> 00:46:40.776
that was issued he successfully issued a

00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.256
business newsletter to shy business

00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.280
owners featuring updates on grounds

00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:47.896
events and business support

00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.496
opportunities

00:46:49.520 --> 00:46:52.520
um and  I'm in business i did not

00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:57.016
receive it obviously but I'm presuming

00:46:57.040 --> 00:47:00.040
that that happened in in in town 

00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:03.335
would it be possible to put something

00:47:03.359 --> 00:47:06.359
like that online so that we who are

00:47:07.359 --> 00:47:09.656
still doing a lot of tourist activities

00:47:09.680 --> 00:47:12.216
but not present in the main street can

00:47:12.240 --> 00:47:14.936
certainly look at that and try and um

00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.960
and support and promote whatever is

00:47:18.160 --> 00:47:20.216
coming up because we have no access to

00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:23.240
that yep sure thank you

00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.176
 thanks for that we'll move on to item

00:47:27.200 --> 00:47:29.736
10.8 the grants report which um council

00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:31.976
planning I think had question sorry and

00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:34.776
I do too sorry no problem yeah take

00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.496
council planning first so I'm looking at

00:47:37.520 --> 00:47:40.520
page 64  the last row in the  it's

00:47:42.720 --> 00:47:45.656
got sub sub rows the um relates to the

00:47:45.680 --> 00:47:48.456
Mac  amenities

00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.456
um and there's insufficient funds to

00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.536
complete the amenities and the funding

00:47:52.560 --> 00:47:55.560
has been redistributed to the pools um

00:47:57.040 --> 00:47:59.416
my understanding was that the amenities

00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.440
in the MAC were to be accessible from

00:48:02.560 --> 00:48:05.560
the park that's there the play area and

00:48:05.839 --> 00:48:08.839
that that park is um was funded under

00:48:09.839 --> 00:48:12.839
the everyone can play  funding which

00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.536
means that it has to have those toilets

00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:18.536
as part of that it's one of the premises

00:48:18.560 --> 00:48:21.560
of the of of having the funding where

00:48:22.240 --> 00:48:23.575
everyone can play is that you have

00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:26.599
accessible toilets um and I got the

00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:29.976
wrong end of the stick

00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:31.736
as possible

00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:33.815
um so that funding didn't have that

00:48:33.839 --> 00:48:36.136
stipulation in it however as part of the

00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:38.295
larger project um there is an accessible

00:48:38.319 --> 00:48:41.016
toilet from the outside and that is 

00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:42.456
actually in part of the main building

00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.535
for the Vic so the although this talks

00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.136
about the amenities which is for the

00:48:46.160 --> 00:48:48.696
pool being able to be completed the

00:48:48.720 --> 00:48:51.416
actual  facility for the park is

00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.656
accessible and it's accessible from the

00:48:53.680 --> 00:48:56.216
external yes um and so it's at the front

00:48:56.240 --> 00:48:58.136
if you look at the front of the building

00:48:58.160 --> 00:49:00.055
and on the far left nearest to the park

00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.616
there's a door that is the toilet so it

00:49:02.640 --> 00:49:05.095
it is nearing completion and will be

00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.016
ready when the facility is ready and

00:49:07.040 --> 00:49:08.936
open okay very that addresses the

00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:11.960
accessibility um thank you and then I

00:49:12.640 --> 00:49:15.640
was looking at page 65 and the  top

00:49:17.680 --> 00:49:19.416
with middle row the gunning pitcher

00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.815
house gallery roof restoration and I can

00:49:21.839 --> 00:49:24.776
see the council gave $5,150

00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:26.776
towards that grant and my understanding

00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.800
is that that's privatelyowned building

00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.656
um

00:49:31.680 --> 00:49:33.815
can someone give me some information on

00:49:33.839 --> 00:49:36.136
the history of how it it came about that

00:49:36.160 --> 00:49:39.160
council gave that money towards that

00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.880
it's on page 65

00:49:46.319 --> 00:49:49.176
up the top row is the creative capital

00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:50.936
and then the gunning pitcher house is

00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.960
one of those three there oh yes

00:49:55.200 --> 00:49:57.416
math guys there i know i'm really sorry

00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.440
it's come out very small um so the to

00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:03.016
Okay so there are no council funds going

00:50:03.040 --> 00:50:05.335
to this project

00:50:05.359 --> 00:50:08.136
so there's no Yeah sorry

00:50:08.160 --> 00:50:11.160
the heading somewhere but it's um Okay

00:50:11.839 --> 00:50:14.776
so but it it's privately owned i would

00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.800
have expected that um

00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:19.736
that would have been themselves doing

00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.760
the um application and receiving the

00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:24.376
funds and that that wouldn't be on

00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.016
council's list of grants yeah so

00:50:27.040 --> 00:50:28.696
councelor this is an old creative

00:50:28.720 --> 00:50:31.720
capital  project and at the time the

00:50:32.240 --> 00:50:34.456
funding body so this was actually with

00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:36.856
the last government which is relevant

00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:38.936
and irrelevant it's an old project um

00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.496
and that funding allowed it to be for

00:50:41.520 --> 00:50:43.815
restoration essentially of privately

00:50:43.839 --> 00:50:45.656
owned buildings such as Roxy theaters

00:50:45.680 --> 00:50:48.680
and alike um and so this is a grant that

00:50:48.720 --> 00:50:51.720
council obtained and held in council but

00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.936
it was for for that purpose of

00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:56.936
essentially changing the roof on the the

00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.335
picture house theater but no council

00:50:59.359 --> 00:51:01.256
funds so no public funds have gone

00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:03.496
towards this that is solely grant

00:51:03.520 --> 00:51:06.520
funding so council contributions under

00:51:07.520 --> 00:51:09.496
that heading that's under that is that

00:51:09.520 --> 00:51:11.815
just a Yes it's incorrect it's an error

00:51:11.839 --> 00:51:13.815
in how it's been spaced so apologies you

00:51:13.839 --> 00:51:15.016
are correct in what you're saying but I

00:51:15.040 --> 00:51:16.856
can confirm that council have not put

00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.880
any rate payer money towards this and

00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:22.376
while that principle generally holds we

00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:23.976
have had over the years and I think it's

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.295
quite a good um initiative with the

00:51:26.319 --> 00:51:29.319
heritage grants um private places of

00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.800
significance to the history um can apply

00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:36.136
for grants council gets a certain amount

00:51:36.160 --> 00:51:37.815
and sometimes council puts a small

00:51:37.839 --> 00:51:40.136
contribution just for the the interest

00:51:40.160 --> 00:51:41.815
of preser

00:51:41.839 --> 00:51:43.815
 preserving a heritage even though you

00:51:43.839 --> 00:51:46.216
quite like the

00:51:46.240 --> 00:51:47.896
it's very worthwhile project and I'm

00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:49.416
pleased to see that that's happened it

00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.176
does give tourists somewhere to go as

00:51:51.200 --> 00:51:54.136
well so yeah I like it very good thank

00:51:54.160 --> 00:51:57.160
you for saying it um councelor Karen

00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:58.696
yeah thank you chair and my apologies

00:51:58.720 --> 00:52:00.136
for not flagging i had a question for

00:52:00.160 --> 00:52:03.095
10.8 um I I didn't turn the page in my

00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.815
own notes  my question relates to um

00:52:05.839 --> 00:52:08.839
the second last entry on page 63 of the

00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.416
grants table local small commitments

00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.896
allocation grants program drain cleaning

00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.136
in gunning $60,000 it says the project

00:52:16.160 --> 00:52:19.095
is complete and has been acquitted 

00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:22.119
simple question um is that a post

00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.599
gunning flooding incident  initiative

00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.456
and now that it's now that the work is

00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.696
completed and has that the the funding

00:52:32.720 --> 00:52:34.295
has been acquitted does that mean it's

00:52:34.319 --> 00:52:36.376
now easier

00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.400
 for water to flow into Meadow Creek

00:52:39.839 --> 00:52:42.055
and relieve the pressure and the

00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:45.079
likelihood of  flooding into um

00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:49.240
businesses and houses  from the street

00:52:49.359 --> 00:52:52.055
level so I will answer the first part

00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:53.736
and then I'll hand over to the director

00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:55.416
of infrastructure for the second part in

00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.575
the detail um but I will say that in

00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.216
terms of it being grant funding it was

00:53:00.240 --> 00:53:01.575
 what we would know as being an

00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.599
election commitment

00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.055
so that's where the 60,000 came from so

00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:10.616
yes in a way it probably is relating to

00:53:10.640 --> 00:53:12.776
post flood however essentially what we

00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:14.136
would call it is it was an election

00:53:14.160 --> 00:53:17.160
commitment yes

00:53:19.680 --> 00:53:22.680
through the CEO um that fund was used to

00:53:23.200 --> 00:53:26.200
clean the shrubs that was along the um

00:53:26.720 --> 00:53:29.720
creek and and clearing some of the trees

00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.920
um within the creek itself the we

00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:36.535
couldn't initially do anything then we

00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.559
sought um approval um and the there was

00:53:40.240 --> 00:53:42.216
a very limited approval given to us

00:53:42.240 --> 00:53:45.240
because of um biodiversity impact etc so

00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.280
we only cleaned what was near the creek

00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:53.400
um alongside the the banks and we

00:53:53.680 --> 00:53:56.680
removed the the big branches and trees

00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:59.800
only

00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:02.216
sorry chair with your indulgence then a

00:54:02.240 --> 00:54:05.240
supplementary if I may um

00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:09.000
so so creek cleanup not so much drain

00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.760
cleaning no okay okay okay thank you

00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:19.815
Mayor if I may yes I know you're

00:54:19.839 --> 00:54:22.295
particularly active on that subject

00:54:22.319 --> 00:54:25.256
for indulgence um yes sorry my my

00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:28.280
understanding from from that um cuz it

00:54:28.720 --> 00:54:31.720
was a  election commitment from um

00:54:31.839 --> 00:54:34.616
Michael Pilbra when he was running and

00:54:34.640 --> 00:54:36.456
 to his credit he chased the minister

00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.095
up and ensured that that money was was

00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.119
delivered um but my understanding was

00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.559
that the drains were cleared on the

00:54:46.640 --> 00:54:49.640
right hand side up past um the CRT and

00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:54.055
the gain service center the there was

00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:55.656
silt

00:54:55.680 --> 00:54:58.680
um and blockages within the the drainage

00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.696
system on that right hand side and that

00:55:02.720 --> 00:55:05.720
those drains were cleared

00:55:11.200 --> 00:55:13.416
so this is before we talk through the C

00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:15.896
yeah I'll have to find that information

00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:18.920
and details counselor all I know is that

00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.280
because  of the initial  mess that

00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:24.776
was created by the contractor that we

00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:27.800
had engaged to clear the the banks we

00:55:28.240 --> 00:55:31.240
sought um approval for cleaning the the

00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:34.776
creek beds as well and it was declined

00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.800
yeah yeah yeah i understand okay yeah

00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.535
thank you look I think that's um all the

00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:42.936
questions on  the information section

00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:44.696
we've got a mover and a second for items

00:55:44.720 --> 00:55:47.720
10.2 to 10.9 um could I put that motion

00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.400
all in favor i

00:55:52.319 --> 00:55:55.176
um we'll move on to the environmental

00:55:55.200 --> 00:55:58.200
and planning um item 11.1 the draft

00:55:58.720 --> 00:56:01.720
bushfire prone land map move for that

00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.295
item no

00:56:04.319 --> 00:56:07.319
moved by council second

00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.376
is there a second for that council RS we

00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:13.400
go to item 7 page 72

00:56:17.359 --> 00:56:19.335
um has the director of environmental

00:56:19.359 --> 00:56:21.416
planning got any comments on the report

00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.440
 through the CA I suppose in some we

00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.656
are required under the legislation to

00:56:27.680 --> 00:56:30.680
review our bushfire maps um I'm going to

00:56:32.319 --> 00:56:34.616
say on a regular basis our current

00:56:34.640 --> 00:56:37.416
mapping I think was last review date was

00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.440
I think it was 2003

00:56:40.720 --> 00:56:43.335
um so it's well over due for review so

00:56:43.359 --> 00:56:46.295
we are working with the New South Wales

00:56:46.319 --> 00:56:49.256
rural fire services to review the map

00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:52.280
the review is mainly targeted the

00:56:52.319 --> 00:56:53.896
communities

00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:56.920
um so the townships where we know that

00:56:57.200 --> 00:56:58.936
some of the existing mapping is

00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:01.960
inaccurate um as an example we are if we

00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:05.656
go off the mapping there's areas which

00:57:05.680 --> 00:57:08.055
are clear of vegetation but on our

00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:11.079
mapping show that it's got bushfire zone

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.616
mapping or land there so it's about

00:57:14.640 --> 00:57:16.936
tidying up

00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:19.016
what we know has been removed or what

00:57:19.040 --> 00:57:20.856
we've added but the majority of it's

00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.176
just removing and updating the mapping

00:57:23.200 --> 00:57:25.976
to reflect what's on the ground um the

00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.775
last component you'll notice under our

00:57:28.799 --> 00:57:31.799
current mapping the rural area

00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.000
is well sorry portions of the rural area

00:57:35.359 --> 00:57:37.416
are not covered by mapping but the whole

00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.440
SH as indicated in the on page

00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.256
75

00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:49.736
 will now be mapped as bushfire prone

00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:51.896
and that additional mapping comes

00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.920
through mainly from grass land um so the

00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:58.055
farm paddic which might have a house in

00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:59.896
it no trees around it it still is

00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:02.920
impacted by grass grass fires so that

00:58:03.040 --> 00:58:05.335
will require basically dwellings to be

00:58:05.359 --> 00:58:07.016
constructed to a lower level from a

00:58:07.040 --> 00:58:10.040
bushfire protection um and the

00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:11.335
recommendations there for council's

00:58:11.359 --> 00:58:13.575
consideration very good is there any

00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:16.599
questions on the report yes

00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.736
 thank thank you chair

00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:26.760
um difficult to gauge the changes 

00:58:27.520 --> 00:58:30.136
from the  previous to the proposed oh

00:58:30.160 --> 00:58:31.656
sorry well I suppose from current to

00:58:31.680 --> 00:58:34.535
proposed um from the the maps presented

00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:36.136
but I understand the inclusion of

00:58:36.160 --> 00:58:39.160
grassland um my question is  it goes

00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:41.176
to the second part of  the

00:58:41.200 --> 00:58:43.815
recommendation in the um

00:58:43.839 --> 00:58:46.839
in the paper  that um rather than

00:58:47.680 --> 00:58:49.335
council issue a media release to the

00:58:49.359 --> 00:58:51.095
community is this something that we

00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:54.119
could do  in issue a joint media

00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.400
release with the RFS  council's media

00:58:58.160 --> 00:59:01.160
releases   have a particular 

00:59:01.680 --> 00:59:04.680
resonance with the community um  the

00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:08.599
RFS media releases have a qualitatively

00:59:08.720 --> 00:59:10.136
different resonance with our community

00:59:10.160 --> 00:59:11.335
and I think it would be much more

00:59:11.359 --> 00:59:14.359
powerful  receipt  and comprehension

00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:16.856
of information were it joint so can we

00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:19.880
do it together

00:59:20.720 --> 00:59:22.295
 through the CEO we can definitely

00:59:22.319 --> 00:59:24.136
approach the New South Wales RFS and

00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:26.295
request um I can't guarantee their

00:59:26.319 --> 00:59:27.736
response but I don't see it's going to

00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.760
be too much of an issue thank you

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:32.216
I think that's an excellent suggestion

00:59:32.240 --> 00:59:34.216
and It'll just give it a little bit more

00:59:34.240 --> 00:59:37.016
weight and and resonance i can't see why

00:59:37.040 --> 00:59:38.295
they have a problem with that so

00:59:38.319 --> 00:59:41.319
hopefully that can happen um all right

00:59:41.680 --> 00:59:44.616
any other anyone speaking for against

00:59:44.640 --> 00:59:47.256
the motion or any other questions

00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:48.616
all right i'll put the motion all those

00:59:48.640 --> 00:59:51.640
in favor i thank you um we'll move on to

00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:54.535
item 11.2

00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:56.136
um

00:59:56.160 --> 00:59:58.616
the proposed new road name for Meadow

00:59:58.640 --> 01:00:01.496
Drive that's on page 86

01:00:01.520 --> 01:00:03.256
um

01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:05.335
there's a a fourpart recommendation

01:00:05.359 --> 01:00:06.856
could I have a a move for that

01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:09.256
recommendation second councelor S and

01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:12.280
Council Pier seconded um is there anyone

01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:14.535
to speak for that motion or against it

01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.559
or any queries

01:00:18.160 --> 01:00:20.055
no no questions that's fair it's fairly

01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:22.136
straightforward and it's well supported

01:00:22.160 --> 01:00:25.016
paper um

01:00:25.040 --> 01:00:27.176
unless the director wants to comment we

01:00:27.200 --> 01:00:30.200
just take the report as read as as read

01:00:30.240 --> 01:00:31.976
very good all right I'll put the put the

01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.000
motion in all those in favor i Thank you

01:00:39.180 --> 01:00:41.176
[Applause]

01:00:41.200 --> 01:00:43.815
um that's the finish of environment and

01:00:43.839 --> 01:00:46.775
planning um department of infrastructure

01:00:46.799 --> 01:00:48.856
there is no reports so we'll move on to

01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.496
the finance administration section the

01:00:51.520 --> 01:00:54.055
first item is item 13.1  Mayor and

01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.079
council remuneration  it's on page 100

01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:01.079
move  moved by councelor cell seconded

01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.280
by councelor I'll say councelor flan

01:01:04.640 --> 01:01:06.456
um

01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:08.936
could um yes does anyone want to speak

01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:11.256
for the motion or  or against motion

01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:13.496
or any questions i think  councelor

01:01:13.520 --> 01:01:15.736
Cameron might have been first i'd like

01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.295
to actually speak against this well we

01:01:18.319 --> 01:01:20.136
just I think it's supposed to be we have

01:01:20.160 --> 01:01:21.656
to do it in the right order is there for

01:01:21.680 --> 01:01:24.680
the motion first against against

01:01:24.799 --> 01:01:27.799
um council this is an annual thing the

01:01:28.640 --> 01:01:31.640
determination is not made by us made by

01:01:32.319 --> 01:01:35.319
um state government  the announce

01:01:36.160 --> 01:01:39.160
usually in line with CPI or whatever use

01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:42.920
for looking at the increase and um even

01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:48.440
though we're a small council also go

01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:54.119
so um I think that generally is well

01:01:55.200 --> 01:01:57.256
regarded i understand that some people

01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:59.736
think that there's money that could go

01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.616
elsewhere but the amount is fairly small

01:02:02.640 --> 01:02:04.136
and

01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:05.736
um

01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.136
it's up to other councils to make a

01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:11.160
determination on that one for it all

01:02:11.200 --> 01:02:13.575
right thanks Councelor councelor Cameron

01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.599
to speak against

01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:20.936
Thank you chair um and look I and I

01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:22.936
sense this will be this stance will be

01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:24.696
unpopular with some of my fellow

01:02:24.720 --> 01:02:27.256
counselors  but I won't be supporting

01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.280
this recommendation um  

01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:32.856
notwithstanding the recommendation of

01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.880
the um the the staff to councilors in

01:02:36.240 --> 01:02:37.736
the paper and the and the argument that

01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:39.656
is that is well made in the paper and

01:02:39.680 --> 01:02:41.575
and also not withstanding the terrific

01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:43.736
work that the New South Wales State

01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.136
Government Remuneration Tribunal does in

01:02:46.160 --> 01:02:47.976
relation to these complicated matters

01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:49.575
that is that is certainly worth pointing

01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:52.599
out um  both in the um categorization

01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.016
of councils you know complexity and size

01:02:55.040 --> 01:02:57.416
those issues  and remuneration for

01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.440
councilors and mayers um my my simple

01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:05.000
reason for not supporting at this time

01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.295
at this time and in this context really

01:03:08.319 --> 01:03:11.319
goes to  the following um we're um

01:03:12.640 --> 01:03:15.640
we're increasing our um um general

01:03:15.680 --> 01:03:17.896
ordinary rates that that component of

01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.920
our rates  by 5% which is the the

01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.815
amount that um the  independent

01:03:23.839 --> 01:03:26.839
pricing tribunal  allows um and I

01:03:27.359 --> 01:03:29.335
think that's I think that is  that is

01:03:29.359 --> 01:03:32.055
a sensible increase um but we're also

01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:34.376
increasing  a bunch of other  fees

01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.400
and charges across  waste and  water

01:03:37.680 --> 01:03:40.680
and sewer um  by lesser amounts um 

01:03:42.720 --> 01:03:44.936
and my simple proposition is I would

01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:47.960
rather see  as best we can um  the

01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:53.400
bulk of that  those increases go to

01:03:54.799 --> 01:03:56.456
maintaining

01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:58.616
 and where we can improving the

01:03:58.640 --> 01:04:00.936
service level in those in those areas

01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.960
rather than paying us    albeit as

01:04:05.680 --> 01:04:08.376
councelor S has already said a um a

01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:10.696
modest a very modest amount it isn't

01:04:10.720 --> 01:04:13.575
much money that is true um but I would

01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.599
rather see as much of our rate paid

01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:20.920
  income go to maintaining or

01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:25.079
improving services rather than paying us

01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:28.760
paying us more

01:04:28.799 --> 01:04:31.799
 thanks Council Karen um does anyone

01:04:32.160 --> 01:04:35.160
like to speak  for the motion

01:04:35.200 --> 01:04:38.200
from the floor  council um I think if

01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:42.055
when you look at the history of local

01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:44.295
government and I'm talking long line

01:04:44.319 --> 01:04:47.319
history here um there has been times

01:04:47.680 --> 01:04:50.680
where these fees to councilors have not

01:04:51.520 --> 01:04:53.976
been increased and then there's a catch

01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:56.936
up and they go up by a large amount and

01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:59.335
that  pe the community will find that

01:04:59.359 --> 01:05:02.055
offensive if that happens the classic

01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:04.936
example of that happening is and I'm old

01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:07.496
enough to recall discussions  when

01:05:07.520 --> 01:05:10.055
rate pegging came in and prior to rate

01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:11.815
pegging councils would not increase the

01:05:11.839 --> 01:05:13.896
rates not increase the race not increase

01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:16.616
the rates and then put them up by 20%

01:05:16.640 --> 01:05:19.640
which was outrageous that kind of yes

01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.095
this is a payment to us  but that kind

01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:26.119
of  sudden increase is  is not

01:05:26.240 --> 01:05:28.376
wellreceived and that is what we have a

01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:31.400
likelihood of happening here this is a

01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.440
very long um report from um the re

01:05:35.520 --> 01:05:38.295
remuneration tribunal um I'm going to

01:05:38.319 --> 01:05:40.856
say this is the longest the these

01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:42.295
reports are getting longer and longer

01:05:42.319 --> 01:05:43.815
they're giving us more detail and more

01:05:43.839 --> 01:05:46.295
reason for having reached the decisions

01:05:46.319 --> 01:05:48.376
that they've made

01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:51.335
i think it's it's fair what we receive

01:05:51.359 --> 01:05:54.359
in total as  as a body as a the

01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:57.095
elected body is modest

01:05:57.119 --> 01:05:59.575
and yes I agree the community will see

01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:02.599
that these money could be spent to

01:06:02.720 --> 01:06:05.256
improve other services but a really such

01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:07.335
a modest amount that it's not going to

01:06:07.359 --> 01:06:09.176
improve

01:06:09.200 --> 01:06:12.200
much of anything

01:06:12.640 --> 01:06:14.055
thank you councelor Funnan i think

01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:17.079
council pierce um yes I thank my fellow

01:06:18.160 --> 01:06:21.160
councilors for their comments um I'm

01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:25.000
very much on the same view as  my

01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:28.119
compatriate counselor Cameron um I do

01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:30.055
know that particularly in Gunning

01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:31.976
there's a lot of people around there who

01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:33.496
are finding it hard with the cost of

01:06:33.520 --> 01:06:36.520
living um we are increasing costs across

01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:40.216
the board i fully agree that despite the

01:06:40.240 --> 01:06:42.376
fact that it is a small amount it's

01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:45.400
still um money that comes from the

01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.440
rateayers to pay our fees and  in all

01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:52.599
conscience I  can't can't um accept a

01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:57.960
 a rise at this time um based on the

01:07:00.160 --> 01:07:02.856
the feedback I got for during the

01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:05.015
election campaign and just in talking to

01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:08.039
people in general um yeah that's

01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:11.079
basically it no worry um does anyone

01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.119
else want to speak for the the motion

01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:16.376
um look I'll just very briefly give my

01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:19.400
view i I just think um that one one

01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:21.256
thing I suppose I'd like to alert people

01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:23.575
to is that there is also individual

01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:25.176
powers as well like this is a general

01:07:25.200 --> 01:07:28.200
setting and there has been times that 

01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:29.736
local government state government and

01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:31.416
federal government where various people

01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:34.440
have decided to either donate their

01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:37.480
their stipend  to charity or indeed

01:07:37.520 --> 01:07:39.176
back to the count the council or the

01:07:39.200 --> 01:07:40.535
body they're serving so I mean that's

01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:42.616
still a power that's available to any

01:07:42.640 --> 01:07:44.295
individual notwithstanding what we agree

01:07:44.319 --> 01:07:47.256
today um I guess the other thing is I

01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:49.815
getting bashed by Ron Hanig every time

01:07:49.839 --> 01:07:51.095
we see him the minister for local

01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:52.936
government and one of his big things is

01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.960
that um the importance of local

01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:57.976
government needs to be elevated and that

01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:01.000
we need to make sure that we um attract

01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:03.416
as good a people as we can and and

01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:05.736
respect what they do and I I'm not sure

01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:07.656
whether small amounts of increasing

01:08:07.680 --> 01:08:09.736
remuneration makes a big difference but

01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:12.456
to that end obviously I I wish we had

01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:14.295
more people putting a hand up for public

01:08:14.319 --> 01:08:16.295
service and and I guess I support it for

01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:18.135
that reason but look if there's no one

01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.936
else to to speak about we've um had a

01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:22.376
good range of views and I think we all

01:08:22.400 --> 01:08:25.175
respect each other's views um the motion

01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:27.496
is as per the board there basically that

01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.376
we accept the tribunals's recommendation

01:08:30.400 --> 01:08:32.695
um could I ask who's in favor of that

01:08:32.719 --> 01:08:35.576
motion all those info

01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:38.536
um and look I'll for that that's four so

01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.175
it's four and those against just to be

01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:44.199
clear that's four against um well um

01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:47.735
that comes down to then a deciding

01:08:47.759 --> 01:08:50.759
motion um and and look I I'm in favor of

01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:54.279
it so I pass the motion

01:08:55.120 --> 01:08:58.120
thank you

01:08:58.400 --> 01:09:01.400
um item 13.2

01:09:01.759 --> 01:09:04.759
so thank you for that um pre

01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:08.520
it's a worthwhile discussion 13.2 Review

01:09:09.120 --> 01:09:11.175
of payment of expenses and the provision

01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:14.199
of facilities policy which is page 151

01:09:15.160 --> 01:09:18.160
[Applause]

01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:21.560
and yeah moved by council and seconded

01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:24.616
by councelor Reynolds and I'll just hand

01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:26.056
over the director of finance in relation

01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:28.526
to that

01:09:28.550 --> 01:09:31.550
[Music]

01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:38.135
thank you  so in relation to the

01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:39.735
payment of expenses provision facilities

01:09:39.759 --> 01:09:42.135
policy um will be put on public

01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.616
exhibition there's been a number of

01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.416
changes um the summary of changes are

01:09:47.440 --> 01:09:50.376
listed there on page 153 most of them

01:09:50.400 --> 01:09:52.856
are around cost of living  increases

01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:55.096
and supporting  professional

01:09:55.120 --> 01:09:57.976
development  with additional um

01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.056
obviously increase in costs for training

01:10:00.080 --> 01:10:03.080
and and so on  also telecommunications

01:10:04.080 --> 01:10:06.776
allowance small increase there of $3 per

01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:09.800
month so this will go out for  public

01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:14.296
comment  and be brought back most

01:10:14.320 --> 01:10:17.256
likely to the August council meeting 

01:10:17.280 --> 01:10:20.215
obviously the updates also relate to

01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:22.695
facilities where we've given council

01:10:22.719 --> 01:10:24.376
laptops instead of iPads and

01:10:24.400 --> 01:10:27.400
technological changes  internally that

01:10:27.440 --> 01:10:30.440
the council has made  as well as the

01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.800
um award travel  rate per kilometer as

01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:37.159
well has been updated so um in your

01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:39.576
hands whether you you feel strongly that

01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:41.256
there should be some amendments to this

01:10:41.280 --> 01:10:43.096
before we put on public exhibition or

01:10:43.120 --> 01:10:45.096
whether you're happy to put it out as it

01:10:45.120 --> 01:10:46.695
is in the present form that's been

01:10:46.719 --> 01:10:49.256
presented

01:10:49.280 --> 01:10:52.280
very good got any um questions or or or

01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:56.135
anyone to speak um for the policy or

01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:58.056
against

01:10:58.080 --> 01:11:00.056
the floor i'll just point out that there

01:11:00.080 --> 01:11:02.936
is a number of items in that policy that

01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:04.536
they're obviously in the policy but

01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.936
things that we don't necessarily do it

01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:09.496
just gives us um in relation there's a

01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:10.695
few things there for instance I don't

01:11:10.719 --> 01:11:13.719
take advantage of um but I guess it's an

01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:16.695
overarching policy that  indicates you

01:11:16.719 --> 01:11:19.496
know to the extent that we can go so any

01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:21.736
any  any questions from the floor if

01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:23.736
not we'll put the policy and and that

01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:24.856
would mean that it'll go out on

01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:26.776
exhibition as the director explained and

01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:28.536
and will come back to us at the end of

01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:31.175
the exhibition period um all those in

01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:32.936
favor

01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:35.336
thank you

01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:38.360
okay we'll move on to um quite a large

01:11:39.040 --> 01:11:41.016
item this time the new growth planning

01:11:41.040 --> 01:11:43.336
reporting which has been on exhibition

01:11:43.360 --> 01:11:46.360
which is item 13.3 on page 173 i'll hand

01:11:47.040 --> 01:11:50.040
over to finally

01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:55.336
move the recommendations before us i'll

01:11:55.360 --> 01:11:58.360
call for a mover council presenter and

01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:01.560
second by council thank you

01:12:02.080 --> 01:12:05.080
thank you chair  as the u five plans

01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:09.336
have been placed on public exhibition

01:12:09.360 --> 01:12:12.360
for a 5we period there's been  zero

01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:15.016
submissions  received in relation to

01:12:15.040 --> 01:12:18.040
those um reports and strategic documents

01:12:19.120 --> 01:12:22.056
we gave some statistics there um request

01:12:22.080 --> 01:12:24.296
of councelor Cameron u last month in

01:12:24.320 --> 01:12:27.320
relation to reach around views and um

01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:30.760
reactions and and clicks  but didn't

01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:34.199
eventuate into any further submissions

01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:37.640
there's been minor changes since the

01:12:37.679 --> 01:12:39.736
draft exhibition document specifically

01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:41.736
to the operational plan which has

01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:44.760
increased a net increase of  $68,58

01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:49.560
to our operational deficit that's

01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:51.736
forecast before capital grants and

01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:53.256
contributions

01:12:53.280 --> 01:12:55.336
and it is a requirement that council

01:12:55.360 --> 01:12:58.360
obviously adopt these plans um in June

01:12:58.719 --> 01:13:01.719
prior to new financial period and also

01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:04.215
make the rates and that's why it's such

01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:07.239
a a long u resolution with about 37

01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:10.840
parts to adopting the rating structure

01:13:11.679 --> 01:13:14.135
and the fees and charges

01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.776
and obviously you under the financial

01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:19.800
impact listed there that we've reduced

01:13:20.400 --> 01:13:23.400
our deficit u by over 1.4 4 million from

01:13:24.719 --> 01:13:27.655
 this current period and it's

01:13:27.679 --> 01:13:29.256
strengthening  anticipate

01:13:29.280 --> 01:13:31.016
strengthening our cash position to

01:13:31.040 --> 01:13:34.040
unrestricted cash of around 795,000

01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:36.376
which is not a huge amount but we're

01:13:36.400 --> 01:13:38.856
trying to gradually push up  through

01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:40.536
the changes we've made in relation to

01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.560
our restructure and other  operational

01:13:44.080 --> 01:13:47.080
service delivery changes so hopefully we

01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:49.336
can bring all those um savings to

01:13:49.360 --> 01:13:51.655
fruition obviously the the other

01:13:51.679 --> 01:13:53.736
component is the operational deficit

01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:56.760
result there's 1.5 million 1.57 million

01:13:57.280 --> 01:13:59.736
worth of expenditure where there's been

01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:02.695
a prior period um recognition from the

01:14:02.719 --> 01:14:05.416
grant that's for the roof um state

01:14:05.440 --> 01:14:07.896
government grant roads program so we're

01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:09.096
seeing road works that have been done

01:14:09.120 --> 01:14:10.856
over a number of years but we brought

01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:12.456
the income into account as you have to

01:14:12.480 --> 01:14:14.936
in that that reporting period so that's

01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.336
adversely impacted our operational

01:14:17.360 --> 01:14:20.296
deficit result  as well so that should

01:14:20.320 --> 01:14:22.616
be finalized and brought out unless

01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:24.776
there's any other grants that of that

01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:27.336
nature  we should see a small

01:14:27.360 --> 01:14:30.135
operational deficit in future years all

01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:33.016
things being equal  and capital works

01:14:33.040 --> 01:14:36.040
program 12.11 million as well and a

01:14:36.719 --> 01:14:38.856
number of those being funded by internal

01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.816
reserves 2.4 million funding reserves

01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.776
there we've obviously got all our KPIs

01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:47.496
um and  the integrated plans how they

01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:49.256
for our four-year delivery program to

01:14:49.280 --> 01:14:52.056
our one-year operational plan um our

01:14:52.080 --> 01:14:53.816
long-term financial plan and then

01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:55.655
infrastructure and asset plans which

01:14:55.679 --> 01:14:57.096
we're still working through at present

01:14:57.120 --> 01:15:00.120
time and our workforce plan so um yeah

01:15:00.719 --> 01:15:03.416
I'm suggesting we we should be adopting

01:15:03.440 --> 01:15:05.896
these um but happy to take any comments

01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:08.856
or questions  thanks  to the

01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:11.016
director and look we did have a a long

01:15:11.040 --> 01:15:13.256
discussion on this when we first became

01:15:13.280 --> 01:15:14.616
full counsel but look if there's any

01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:17.336
further  comments from the floor is

01:15:17.360 --> 01:15:20.296
anyone got anything to raise no I think

01:15:20.320 --> 01:15:21.496
say we did go through it quite

01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:24.520
thoroughly last time um so look I'll put

01:15:25.440 --> 01:15:28.440
the motion all those in favor I thank

01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:31.560
you for that council Harris

01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:33.496
against

01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.520
council Harris

01:15:39.330 --> 01:15:42.330
[Applause]

01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.960
Um

01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:51.816
I'm sorry I did yeah ask for for anyone

01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:53.256
to speak for against but that's that's

01:15:53.280 --> 01:15:54.856
that's quite okay you can still vote

01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:56.856
whichever way um we'll move on to the

01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:59.880
CEO's report um which sorry is um no

01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:02.856
reports for this meeting

01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:05.496
um so from there we'll go to there's 

01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:08.520
no late reports um so again we can just

01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:11.576
move through that and item 16 is the

01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:12.776
reports from other committees and

01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:15.576
section 355 committees and delegates um

01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:18.215
we do have a number of declarations in

01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:21.239
relation to that but we'll go to um item

01:16:22.320 --> 01:16:25.096
16.1

01:16:25.120 --> 01:16:27.496
so first of all

01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:30.520
be received yeah first of all we'll move

01:16:30.719 --> 01:16:32.056
reports received and then we'll look at

01:16:32.080 --> 01:16:34.215
specific items and could I have a second

01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:37.239
for receiving reports since appears so

01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:40.616
um I'll put that motion to start with

01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:42.135
that we receive the reports all those in

01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:45.159
favor very good and now

01:16:47.679 --> 01:16:50.456
um we'll step through the individual

01:16:50.480 --> 01:16:53.480
items that we need to approve

01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:58.199
 the first one is in relation to the

01:16:58.480 --> 01:17:01.480
um the gull range wind farm um so with

01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:05.896
our declarations two were

01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:08.215
non-significant so it's of no issue in

01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:11.239
mind in relation to a later matter

01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:14.776
um so the motion is council rights to

01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:17.576
the successful applicants for 202526

01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:20.600
gone range wind farm grant fund could I

01:17:21.280 --> 01:17:23.816
have a mover for that motion and council

01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:26.456
s on a second

01:17:26.480 --> 01:17:28.056
do I have a second for that motion

01:17:28.080 --> 01:17:31.080
councelor Harris all those in favor

01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:33.816
all right the second item is the council

01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:35.736
right successful applicants in relation

01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:38.760
to the croole farm

01:17:39.440 --> 01:17:41.816
could I remove that is council s a

01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:44.840
seconder council Pierce all those in

01:17:45.360 --> 01:17:47.175
favor

01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:49.016
i suppose I should have just said by way

01:17:49.040 --> 01:17:52.040
of explanation that um most of the um

01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:56.520
wind farm projects at this time of year

01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:59.800
give their annual um grants to  the

01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:02.616
community and  not all of them have

01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:04.296
happened yet but these are the ones that

01:18:04.320 --> 01:18:07.320
have been approved in the last month um

01:18:08.480 --> 01:18:11.480
so the next item

01:18:13.040 --> 01:18:16.040
is in relation to the colorone coloring

01:18:16.719 --> 01:18:19.719
range wind farm

01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:24.536
okay i've made a mistake there i'm sorry

01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:26.056
I

01:18:26.080 --> 01:18:28.456
um in relation to the one before

01:18:28.480 --> 01:18:30.536
obviously I didn't vote on that because

01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:33.560
I got Okay that's fine thank you um I've

01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:36.135
just realized I should declare an

01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:38.776
interest in that um as a member of the

01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:41.800
Rosland community um I'll stay here

01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:45.960
won't vote on that all right so I've

01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:48.135
just

01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:50.456
Well just just for clarity we might just

01:18:50.480 --> 01:18:53.480
return to that item so item two we have

01:18:53.679 --> 01:18:56.456
passed but council

01:18:56.480 --> 01:18:59.480
is not voting on that item nor myself

01:18:59.679 --> 01:19:02.679
what page  page 2011

01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:07.336
so we've already approved the motion but

01:19:07.360 --> 01:19:10.360
it excludes council flan and myself

01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:13.096
thank you

01:19:13.120 --> 01:19:14.376
right here we'll move on to the next

01:19:14.400 --> 01:19:17.400
motion which is the coloring farm

01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:22.456
excuse me one second i'll update thank

01:19:22.480 --> 01:19:24.296
you

01:19:24.320 --> 01:19:27.320
um now there's

01:19:27.360 --> 01:19:29.096
Could I have a move for the color in

01:19:29.120 --> 01:19:31.816
front windfall motion councelor Pierce

01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:34.776
and second

01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.016
council Reynolds

01:19:37.040 --> 01:19:39.016
again this is just advising the success

01:19:39.040 --> 01:19:42.040
successful actions all those in favor

01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:44.616
thank you is that the end of the

01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:47.640
resolutions is it thank you very good

01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:51.880
that's deals with the um the reports

01:19:52.320 --> 01:19:54.856
from other committees um now at this

01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:56.456
meeting we we don't have any notice of

01:19:56.480 --> 01:19:59.480
motions or questions with notice um so

01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:02.600
at this point um I'll we'll move to the

01:20:03.360 --> 01:20:05.096
um confidential session i'd have to ask

01:20:05.120 --> 01:20:07.096
the public gallery to excuse us quick

01:20:07.120 --> 01:20:10.120
time thank you

01:20:10.480 --> 01:20:13.336
i move that we move our council to

01:20:13.360 --> 01:20:16.360
council

01:20:18.230 --> 01:20:21.230
[Music]

01:20:25.679 --> 01:20:27.576
 yeah welcome back to the upper

01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:29.655
lockand sh council meeting of 19th of

01:20:29.679 --> 01:20:31.896
June we've just concluded the um

01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:34.616
confidential session  in that session

01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:37.256
we considered the supply and delivery of

01:20:37.280 --> 01:20:40.280
bolt fuel um the resolution

01:20:41.360 --> 01:20:43.175
was that council accept the following

01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:44.616
recommendations for the supply and

01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:47.576
delivery of bolt fuel um Castleton

01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:50.600
Propriy Limited Oswin Energy Prope

01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:53.816
Limited  Petro National Proprietary

01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:56.215
Limited item two is council delegate the

01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.856
chief executive officer of authority to

01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:00.776
execute the bulk fuel contract for a

01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:03.336
2-year term with a 12-month contract

01:21:03.360 --> 01:21:06.360
extension um item three is the council

01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:09.880
advise central New South Wales joint

01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:11.655
organization

01:21:11.679 --> 01:21:14.215
of the council's decision um I'll just

01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:17.239
note as well that this this is a

01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:19.976
arrangement whereby council's grouping

01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:21.816
together get a significant discount in

01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:23.976
this you know very large area of

01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:27.000
expenditure and and deputy  Mayor

01:21:27.280 --> 01:21:29.655
mentioned that we should communicate as

01:21:29.679 --> 01:21:31.336
well that we're very thankful to be part

01:21:31.360 --> 01:21:33.096
of this process and getting the benefits

01:21:33.120 --> 01:21:36.120
that um that it offers um that motion

01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:40.520
was  voted for in favor unanimously um

01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:44.776
for for clear the clear benefit the

01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:47.016
council that it represents  that was

01:21:47.040 --> 01:21:49.816
the only item in the closed section and

01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:52.776
that concludes our meeting so um we'll

01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:55.416
close the meeting at that point y sorry

01:21:55.440 --> 01:21:58.440
about missed a point where um I wanted

01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:02.760
to pass on some thanks to  council

01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:06.040
staff for handling a  issue in gunning

01:22:06.719 --> 01:22:09.719
um this week um yeah in in in short

01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:14.456
started about 9:00 on I think Tuesday

01:22:14.480 --> 01:22:16.536
night i was contacted by some concerned

01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:19.560
residents and  the  the  kind of

01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:23.576
conversation went on till about 11:00

01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:26.056
p.m and then started again the next day

01:22:26.080 --> 01:22:28.135
um I passed the concerns of the people

01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:31.159
on to um the CEO Alex and  to Simon um

01:22:33.679 --> 01:22:36.679
and a number of staff um can I say just

01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:40.520
 got right on the the issue and 

01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:44.456
put in a quite a lot of time a lot of

01:22:44.480 --> 01:22:47.256
effort and  address the issue very

01:22:47.280 --> 01:22:49.816
quickly very professionally and I just

01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:52.840
want to pass on um my thanks  to the

01:22:54.400 --> 01:22:57.400
staff  which I'll probably miss some

01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:00.760
um there's Alex Simon Hugh

01:23:02.639 --> 01:23:05.639
Daryl Sam um and possibly others  but

01:23:07.920 --> 01:23:09.896
they were incredibly responsive

01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:12.920
incredibly reactive and   to to date

01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.615
they've solved the problem  so as I

01:23:16.639 --> 01:23:19.416
say it was about 6 hours of my time and

01:23:19.440 --> 01:23:21.336
quite a lot more time from the council

01:23:21.360 --> 01:23:22.695
staff and I just thought I can pass on

01:23:22.719 --> 01:23:24.456
my thanks all right thank you for that

01:23:24.480 --> 01:23:26.376
Council Pearson and it's always

01:23:26.400 --> 01:23:28.536
important we remember um what our staff

01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:29.976
do for us and when they go over and

01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:33.000
beyond um so look at that point we'll

01:23:33.120 --> 01:23:34.856
close the council meeting at u it's

01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:37.816
about 5 3 thank you all for your

01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:39.976
attendance and we'll see you next

01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:43.000
month's meeting thank you